The utility of 3CD/3CB, even after correction made in it , is not a user friendly utility and we have already indicated some of the mistakes in it. Some more mistakes were noticed by other experts and chartered accountants and the same were reported at various places in workshops and seminars related to this new feature which has been added to the work of chartered accountants.
On 24th July some of these mistakes were rectified but in most of the cases the software service providers are not able to update or have some problem in updating this utility hence the users are directly using the utility which is available on the income tax e-filing site to create the XML file of Form 3CB/3CD.
Though the law makers and administrators have enormous resources at their disposal and there is no dearth of technical expertise in the country, our experience in using this utility is not very good. This is not user friendly utility and chartered accountants are facing lot of troubles in completing this new task of e-fling of audit report.
Let us have a look at some of them:-
The “save draft” facility of the utility is provided in very cumbersome manner and each time you want to save a single page, you have either to save a new file or replace the existing one. Further whenever you put the curser on a dropdown box for choosing Yes, No or not applicable, you will lose the place and again have to find the same again . This is not only time consuming but irritating also.
The utility does not have the facility to see the Form 3CD in non-xml format i.e. format in which you can view the whole form to detect the mistake and take the print of it. If you want to print the form then first you have to upload it and take the print of the Form from the account of assessee work list. See here in the earlier utility which was replaced by new one on 24th July 2013 there was a facility to see the print preview of the form and print the form.
Further if the utility is filled by you assistant and you want to check it then you have to open the saved draft or validated XML file in the open draft option then you will be surprised that you have lost all the options “yes , no , NA options in drop down Boxes and again have to fill the same .
Further There is are problems with filling the Depreciation figures specially in case of multiple additions in a assets and further in cases where both additions and deletions are there in a single asset the filling of figures is confusing and cumbersome . In case of PF deposit, after filling the correct due date and date of deposit, you will find that both are interchanged with each other and you will find this fact when you see the final copy of the Form 3CD and as already mentioned by us that it is very difficult to see the final copy of the form 3CD.
So still we have the same opinion that our law makers and administrators of law are certainly searching the “path of excellence” by using the “trial and error method” at the cost of Taxpayers and professionals.
————————————
-CA SUDHIR HALAKHANDI -CA ABHAS HALAKHANDI
“HALAKHANDI”, LAXMI MARKET, BEAWAR-305901(RAJ)
CELL- 9828067256, MAIL –sudhirhalakhandi@gmail.com
Author Bio
There is an error while entering GST no, as it is picking state code 12 for Haryana whereas the state code is 06. Is there is any solution for that ?
recently i have down loaded 3cb & 3cd and prepared and saved draft file/xml file for making some corrections i could not reopen again msg is please select valid draft/xml file can you help me out i have preparec 9 companies and again i cannot do
Pijush Mondal
Sir I face a problem, when I save form 3CB-3CD form it ave successfully. But when I next time oprn this form it shown error.xml.import.invalid
Please help me
I saved Form 3CA3CD in my desktop , but when I tried to open that it displays not responding ( the content of the file is 2.91 Mb is there any problem with the size)
sir,
while uploading 3cb 3cd at the step of uploading digital signature it shows can not read this file am suffering with this problem can u please provide any solution, i created one fakepath in C drive and try to upload the same but no use same problem repeated, please help me sir
Upload sucessful. Error resolved. Sharing for the benefit of ppl facing similar difficulty
Error Shown
“The XML Schema is invalid. Please upload the correct schema
At line number 105: the value “of element ‘ns3: Details’ is not valid”
The problem was not the XML schema version as the error prompt showed. I think there is an bug in coding the software. Clause no 17 of 3CD has fields to be filled in with amount to be disallowed. These are not mandatory. It does not show validation error if not filled. However when we create xml file the tag is left without closing tag .
THIS ERROR IS RESOLVED when you put “0” i.e some data in the fields.
The other private soft ware providers are updating the xml schema from time to time. Particularly the soft ware being provided by the kdk software( spectrum) is seems to be best of the available softwares in the market and their service is also apprecitable.
The people are suffering only for the not uploading of the tax audit forms but the actual tehnical problem is not ponting out anybody. As per the Income tax rules, he balance sheet is to be filed for the companies on or before 30 september of every year. Most of the companies are conducting their AGMs on 30th september . And the balance sheet has to be approved in the AGM and if the majority of members objects , the balance sheet has to be changed according to the desires of the members. Suppose members are objected certain points in AGM , the balance sheet has to be changed. How is it possible to file the Income tax return on 30th september without the decision of the AGM. It is ridiculous to note that both the departments are Central govt i.e., Ministry of company affairs and Income tax dept . We feel that either the Income tax dept may give time to file the returns atleast till the end of october in order to enable the public to fulfill the Companies Act formalities.
I HAVE SURPRISED TO NOTE THAT THE INCOME TAX DEPARTMENT SCROLLING IS SHOWING THAT SOME OTHER SITES ARE GIVING TAX AUDIT FORMS AND IT DEPARTMENT IS NOT LIABLE FOR THE PROBLEMS IN THEIR FORMS KEEPING THE PUBLIC IN DARK . THE DEPARTMENT FORMS IT SELF HAVING NUMBER OF MISTAKES. WHILE UP LOADING THE XML FORMAT WE ARE GETTING A REMARKS THAT XML SCHEMA WRONG AND IT IS SHOWING THAT IN SOME LINE “ELEMENT IS WRONG AND IN SOME LINES YEAR IS WRONG WHICH IS NOT IN THE HANDS OF ASSESSEES. IT SEEMS THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS NEITHER GIVING CORRECT SOFTWARE NOR ALLOWING THE ASSESSEES TO USE OTHER FORMS.
IT IS VERY MUCH REGRETTABLE.
Why3CB & 3Cd e form are not available on income tax web site
Our company have four items of trading. In quantitative report in para 28 we fill up the figures in Numbers and metres but on validation only first row is appearing and rest are omitted
Sir,
you are correct sir.I face lot of problems in filing of Tax Audit(3c 3cd)report forms.Mainly in geneate XML,save draft and upload of return.It is not a user friendly.Some changes in schema for generating of XML.some special characters are not taken .If you take generate error it is lnvalid schema.Most problems were involed in this software.
What is the solution on above
Sir,
What about form 3CA-3CD, IT Site is saying invalid schema while uploading.
Whether some changes will be made in utility so that we may be able to file 3CA-3CD.
u r right and due dat is drawing near it will be difficult to keep pace with. in a simple case without much complication, i am unable to upload, then imagine a case where the information is to be filled in for most of the queries.
hope govt will show the zeal to rectify and simplify the entire process.
all the information required in form 3cb 3cd is incorporated in income tax return .why again to upload?
Department should correctly recheck the software to facilitate properly
sir,
You are right that the facility is not working properly for uploading the 3cd and 3cb. You have righly poited out that the department is trying “trial and error method” at the cost of Taxpayers and professionals.But it is suprising and important to note that these professionals only has suggested the method of uploading the 3cd and 3cb with some other intention in mind.But the same has hit back and even the department is not caring for the problems in uploading the audit report.At least this year the department should make this optional and they may direct to file the ITR V along with the 3CB and 3CD before the jurisdictional assessing officers and solve the problem.Because now it self the assessess are asking for the 3CD and 3CB and Financial statements for furnishing the same to the BAnkers as most of the Banks are askig for the same for renewal of the loans/OD/CC or for sanction of new loans.The indirect impact of the same has been felt on the economy and non- is thinking of the same expect a few like you sir.
Sir
We are also facing the same problems, particularly on reopen of the generated xml and when you click for validation you can notice there are various validation errors for clauses have option of ‘Yes or No’ and another issue is Annexure I to 3CD are reporting figures in lac’s, but in this utility no such facility available.
Hope the IT dept will take steps to correct
Very useful information. thank u sir
I have also face the same problem and I fully agree with you that the Tax Audit Form requires amendments to make it at par with the informations which are to be provided in the Form and it must be user freiendly.
thank you for the article sir, it will be helpful
Hello Sir
We have faced theses situation what is your suggestion on this
Utility also not providing facility to add multiple addition in a particular assets in clause 14 of form 3 CD