CA Sandeep Kanoi
Tax Audit under the Income Tax Act is currently allowed to be conducted only by the Chartered Accountant but Proposed Direct Tax Code 2013 allows Tax Audit not only by Chartered Accountant but also by Company Secretaries and Cost Accountants. Clause 88 of the Proposed Direct Tax code prescribes who needs to get the book audited under the direct tax code 2013 and it further says that the same needs to be audited by an accountant. The Term accountant is been defined in Clause 320(2) which says that accountant means Chartered Accountants , Company Secretaries , Cost Accountants any person having such qualifications as the Board may prescribe, for the purposes specified in this behalf.
Direct Tax Code 2013
Audit of accounts and reporting of international transaction
88. (1) Every person, who is required to keep and maintain books of account under section 87 shall get his accounts for the financial year audited—
(a) where the person is carrying on one or more professions , the aggregate gross receipts of such profession or professions exceed twenty-five lakh rupees in the financial year;
(b) where the person is carrying on one or more businesses , the aggregate total turnover or gross receipts, as the case may be, of such business or businesses exceed one crore rupees in the financial year.
(2) The audit of the accounts referred to in sub-section (1) shall be carried out by an accountant and the report of audit be obtained in the prescribed form duly signed and verified by such accountant and setting forth such particulars as may be prescribed.
(3) The person referred to in sub-section (1) shall furnish the report of audit referred to in subsection (2) to the assessing officer on or before the due date, in the manner as may be prescribed.
(4) The provisions of sub-section (1) shall not apply to the business where the income therefrom is determined under paragraph 1 of the Eleventh Schedule.
(5) A person shall be deemed to have complied with the provisions of sub-section (1), if the person—
(a) gets the accounts of his business audited as required by, or under, any other law for the time being in force, before the due date; and
(b) obtains by the due date the report of the audit as required under such other law and a further report by an accountant in the form prescribed under sub-section (2).
(6) A person referred to in sub-section (2) of section 87 shall furnish a report of the international transaction or the specified domestic transaction entered into during the financial year to the Transfer Pricing Officer and the Assessing Officer on or before the due date, in the manner as may be prescribed.
(7) The report referred in sub-section (6) shall be obtained from an accountant in such form duly signed and verified in such manner, as may be prescribed.
Meaning of Accountant as per Clause 320 (2)
320. In this Code, unless the context otherwise requires —
(1) *******
(2) “accountant”means a chartered accountant within the meaning of the Chartered Accountants Act, 1949 and who holds a valid certificate of practice under sub-section (1) of section 6 of that Act, and shall include-
(i) a company secretary within the meaning of the Company Secretaries Act, 1980 ;
(ii) a cost accountant within the meaning of the Cost and Works Accountants Act, 1959 ; or
(iii) any person having such qualifications as the Board may prescribe, for the purposes specified in this behalf.
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@S JEGADEESAN. We welcome CAs in cost audit and secretarial audit. Then Cs & CMAs should be allowed to do financial audit.This is good move to allow CS & CMAs to include them in the deficition of Accountant proposed in the new tax code.This will abolish the monopoly of CAs in income tax practice.The Govr. so far has been allowing only CAs. Even to issue 15CA,CB cerficates only CAs are allowed. Why this desperity?
AUDIT IN COMPANIES ACT IS A COST, FINANCIAL & MANAGEMENT ACCOUNTS AUDIT. HERE CMAS BE ALLOWED TO FURNISH THE SAME. WHEREAS IN INCOME-TAX ACT, IT IS A TAX LAW AUDIT. THEREFORE ALL PERSONS AUTHORISED TO PREPARE RETURN UNDER RULE 12A READ WITH SECTION 288(2) OF INCOME-TAX ACT, BE ALLOWED TO FURNISH TAX LAW AUDIT REPORT U/S 44AB. HERE MORE STRESS GIVEN TO INTERPRETATION OF LAW. THEREFORE, DECISION OF MINISTRY OF FINANCE TO EXPAND THE DEFINITION OF ACCOUNTANT IN DTC TO INCLUDE RELATED PROFESSIONAL IS APPROPRIATE. I MIGHT HAVE USED THE WORD MOST APPROPRIATE, IF TAX ADVOCATES AND INCOME-TAX PRACTITIONERS WERE ALSO INCLUDED IN DEFINITION OF ACCOUNTANT IN DTC-2013
P S Deshmukh Sab,
Very pupose of uploading tax audit report is e-filing portal for the Asst. Year 2013-14 was to utilse the same to concluding quality assessment. This also confirms to e-filing project agreement. Against RTI for seeking information about total of section wise wrong claims reported in Tax Audit Report, CBDT failed to provide the same. If you kindly go through Rule 12A of Income-Tax Rules, you will find that other four Non-CA’s class are also authorised to prepare return. Hence, it does not amounts to “treating a patient by a person who even doesn’t know how to check blood pressure”. It is also well known to the Deptt. that it could not utilise the tax audit report furnished by CA’s since 1984, then why 2nd opinion about expanding the definition of Accountant in DTC by including related professionals.
With all views of the above qualifieds, i put forward my opinion.
this is not a war like, to curtail somebodys right against infavour of some one. there is established principle of natural justice that, there can be a profit at a cost of other. Once there is settled profession with esteemed repute and command over act, accounts , decision making, there can not come to allow other non qualified professionals ( not to qualify to be a auditor and accountant). one should understand that, mother act of companies , i.e comapny act 1956 and it’s precedent act allows Chartered Accountant to audit both, cost audit as well as financials audit. there has been vast knowledge input is on hand as a result of long continuous research which makes it alien with national interest. foreign bodies like AICPA, CA of Australia are having tie up with the ICAI (financials), they allows chartered accountants to practice in their respective countries. here chartered accountants are considered as a world class professionals, even corporate world prefer chartered accountant than any other sister institute pass out. in the area of direct tax, chartered accountants are handy in conducting tax audit because the audit is nothing but the financial checking, cost accountant ans company secretary having different domains and thy can;’t be considered fit for the audit( remember:- mother company act allows CA to be a secretary of company also).
Last but not least, when a CA passess out, he makes it through with his dedicated continuous efforts , after 3.5 years of article ship and he is well set due to his practice of study. if other people are allowed to practice as a accountant, then it could be like treating a patient by a person who even doesn’t know how to check blood pressure.
We strictly oppose the inclusion of such other institute pass outs.
BASIC CONCEPT OF AUTHORISING “ACCOUNTANT” TO CONDUCT “TAX LAW AUDIT” BOTH IN INCOME-TAX ACT AND DIRECT TAXES CODE AMOUNTS TO CONTRAVENTION LIABLE FOR ACTION UNDER ARTICLE 129 READ WITH ARTICLE 142(2) OF INDIAN CONSTITUTION IN VIEW OF LATEST SC VERDICT IN THE CASE OF BAR COUNCIL OF INDIA VS A.K.BALAJI READ WITH HC VERDICT A.K.BALAJI VS GOVT. OF INDIA. INCOME-TAX ACT/DIRECT TAXES CODE BEING “LAW”, ADVOCATES ALONE ARE ENTITLED TO PRACTICE, PLEAD AND ACT BEFORE THE ASSESSING OFFICERS OF TAX DEPTT. ON DATE “PRACTICE OF ALL INDIAN TAXATION LAW” SQUARELY FALL WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF NON-LITIGIOUS MATTER AND PRACTICE OF THE SAME BY NON-ADVOCATES HAS BEEN SUBJECT TO REVIEW AS PER INTERIM ORDER OF ABOVE MENTIONED SUPREME COURT. THEREFORE I SUGGEST MY ADVOCATE FRIENDS TO ISSUE SECTION 80 CPC NOTICE TO MINISTRY OF FINANCE, GOVT. OF INDIA,
IN THE ABOVE MATTER.
I HERE BELOW FURNISH NAME & ADDRESS OF PERSON IN MINISTRY OF FINANCE TO WHOM SECTION 80 CPC NOTICE HAS TO BE SERVED ABOUT PRACTICE OF INCOME-TAX LAW BY ACCOUNTANTS
SMT.RASHMITA JHA,
DIRECTOR (V&L),
CBDT, ROOM NO.253A,
NORTH BLOCK,
NEW DELHI-110001
Tel No.: 011-23092786
E-Mail : umasingh@nic.in
I HOPE THAT MY ADVOCATE FRIENDS WILL MAKE USE OF THE ABOVE INFORMATION TO SERVE SECTION 80 CPC NOTICE TO MINISTRY OF FINANCE, GOVT. OF INDIA IN THE ABOVE MATTER
In the case of Sales Tax Practitioners Association of Maharashtra & Bar Council of Maharashtra, about Audit and Certification of Sales Tax Returns, recently Hon’ble Supreme Court held that “There must be judicial restraint, We will not interfere, Tell legislature to amend the law” – Justice Markandey Katju (SC)
DEAR ALL ADV/CA/CMA/CS/ITP,
Audit means “verification”, depending on the purpose they are classified as Energy Audit, Environment Audit, Product Audit, Process Audit, Legal Audit in USA & Tax Audit in Indian Income-Tax Act. Here, person conducting audit should be specialized in that subject. Hence, the word “Audit” is not the domain of CA/CMA, Assessing officers of Income-Tax Deptt. who come from different streams conducting audit in scrutiny assessment proceedings are not CA/CMA. In fact, criteria of considering Accountant to conduct Audit under Income-Tax Law or DTC is wrong. Because, it amounts to allowing person writing books of accounts to conduct audit. In conclusion, person specialized in Income-Tax law should issue Certificates/Reports in Income-Tax Act….
Indian legislature provided special class of persons called Advocates in Advocates Act, 1961 to practice all Indian laws. Therefore, appearance clause is not yet all required in any Indian statute. Bar Council of India Vs A.K.Balaji [SLP (Civil) No(s) 17150-17154/2012] Dt.04.07.2012 (SC) and A.K.Balaji Vs Govt. of India (2012) 35 KLR 290 21.02.2012 (Madras HC) it was clearly held by Hon’ble Supreme Court & Madras High Court that Advocates alone are entitled to practice the Profession of Law both in litigious & non-litigious matters, nullifying the effect of Section 33 of Advocates Act. This also confirms to Section 29 of Advocates Act. As practice of law is the domain of Advocates, it is not only power, but also a prerogative power of Advocates to conduct Tax Law Audit in India in view of latest SC verdict
FINAL OPINION IN THE INTEREST OF GOVT. REVENUE & ALL TAX PROFESSIONALS
On careful study of Section 288(2) of Income-Tax Act, 1961 read with Rule 12A of Income-Tax Rules, 1962, it has to be presumed that all five class of person’s viz. Legal Practitioners, Chartered Accountants, Cost & Management Accountants, Company Secretaries & Income-Tax Practitioners possess knowledge of Section 145 read with 14 Accounting Standards of CBDT, required for Income-Tax Practice. Because certain qualification has been fixed in Income-Tax Act for these five class of persons. Further, Accounting Standard framed by ICAI (Financials) & IFRS not required for Income-Tax Practice. Here the question is, when such other four class of Non-CA Tax Professionals are authorized to prepare return under Rule 12A of Income-Tax Rules, there is no justification to prohibit them for issue of Certificates/Reports in Income-Tax Act.
DEAR ALL FRIENDS,
Section 44AD, Ceiling on Tax Audit, Uploading of Tax Audit Report and wrong amendment in 2nd Proviso to Section 44AB of Income-Tax Act in Finance Act 2001 are the main cause for above changes reflected in DTC-2013.
Particulars of Income-tax admitted in tax audit cases for Asst. Year 2012-13 & 2013-14 that relates to return filed in ITR-4, 5 & 6 as provided by CPC, Bangalore as at 28.05.2014 are as under:-
Particulars……………..Asst. Year 2012-13..Asst. Year 2013-14
Total Tax Admitted in ITR-4 Rs. 23,986 Crores Rs. 23,952 Crores
Total Tax Admitted in ITR-5 Rs. 20,712 Crores Rs. 21,556 Crores
Total Tax Admitted in ITR-6 Rs.2,92,266 Crores Rs.2,34,456 Crores
Margin derived by farmers is not taxed in Income-Tax Act, but margin derived by next sellers of such agricultural output is taxed in their hands in Income-Tax Act. Presuming the output of corporate assessees reach the ultimate consumer in three stages & considering tax admission in corporate cases & 50% of such corporate assessees do business with non-corporates covered by tax audit, who are in between the corporates & retailers and also considering non-corporates engaged in service sector, I am of the strong view that combined Income-Tax admission as per return filed in ITR-4 and 5 covered by tax audit U/s 44AB should have crossed at least Rs. 15,00,000/-Crores. (Basis being 80:20 ratio of Ag. & Ind. Output).
Since introduction of Tax Audit by only CA’s in 1984, our esteemed Central Govt. has lost heavily on account of Income-Tax. Therefore, ICAI (Financials) should reimburse the same to the Central Govt.
World over functions of Accounting are classified depending on the area of operation, application & usage. They are as under..
(1) Cost Accounts=> Manufacturing/Processing Activity..
(2) Financial Accounts = > Trading Activity..
(3) Management Accounts => Management Level/Decision Making..
Note:-Management Accounts is nothing but application of Ratio Analysis and Cash Flow Statement on Cost and Financial Accounts.
By The Cost and Works Accountants (Amendment) Act, 2011, name has been changed to “The Institute of Cost Accountants of India” and the members got the power to work in the area of Management Accounts also and can re-designate themselves as ACMA/FCMA. Now, it is funny that both institutes passed by an Act of Parliament called by similar short name of “ICAI”. Of course syllabus is almost similar in all the three institutes called by different name of ICSI, ICWAI and ICAI.
In view of the above amendment, Cost Accountants now possess wide power of working in the area of Cost Accounts, Financial Accounts & Management Accounts. And hence, Institute of Cost Accountants of India should be called full accounting body in India. Whereas, Chartered Accountants are restricted to work in the area of Financial Accounts only. This being the case, I do not understand why only Chartered Accountants are authorized to conduct Tax Audit U/s 44AB of Income-Tax Act and enjoy monopoly of authority, causing strict hurdle for voluntary compliance.
Below is the title given to BSKRAO by learned CA Ashish Goel (UP), See how much CA’s are Civilized ….. Mukesh Ji, Who is this learned idiot ? ….. CA ASHISH GOEL …… 9412657298…. 9760914729
Chartered Institute demand that Tax Audit is the exclusive domain of Chartered Accountants only. WHAT IS THIS ? THERE IS NOTHING CALLED EXCLUSIVE DOMAIN IN THIS WORLD …..ANY ONE WHO HAS CAPABLE DO ANY THING.
DEPTT. OF REVENUE, MINISTRY OF FINANCE, GOVT. OF INDIA SHOULD CONSIDER THE CONCERN OF ICAI (FINANCIALS) ABOUT EXPANDING THE DEFINITION OF ACCOUNTANT IN DTC-2013. IF NOT ICAI (FINANCIALS) NOT ONLY ACT WILD/CRUEL, THEY DO NOT ALLOW DTC-2013 TO COME OUT SMOOTHLY. THEREFORE, IT IS BETTER TO ACCEDE TO THE WISHES OF ICAI (FINANCIALS) AND INTRODUCE TAX PRACTITIONERS BILL PREVAILING IN OTHER COUNTRY’S THROUGHOUT THE WORLD TO WIDEN GENUINE TAX BASE OF ASSESSES IN INDIA
I THINKM DTC2013 MUST BE IMPLIMENTED IN JULY 2014 BUTDGET ITSELF. WIH CERTAIN AMENDMENTS LIKE ADVOCATES RIGHTS IN TAXATION
MANDEEP SINGH JI,
You are correct that CAs should restrict their work to writing books of financial accounts of assessees, the authority granted in their statute. They should not interfere in any Indian law matters both in litigious & non-litigious matters in view of latest Apex Court verdict in the case of Bar Council of India Vs A.K.Balaji. Therefore, appearance clause both in Income-Tax Act, Direct Taxes Code & all Indian State & Central Govt. Taxation Laws require deletion. This will happen today or tomorrow definetly.
TILL DATE, MINISTRY OF FINANCE SAW ONE FACE OF ICAI (FINANCIALS). AS MINISTRY OF FINANCE NOW COME OUT WITH THE PROPOSAL OF EXPANDING DEFINITION OF ACCOUNTANT IN DTC-2013, NOW HON’BLE MINISTRY OF FINANCE WILL SEE ANOTHER CRUEL FACE OF ICAI (FINANCIALS)
ATUL SIR,
I DO AGREE DTC-2013 WILL NOT COME, BUT TAX PRACTITIONERS BILL IS THE NEED OF THE HOUR TO PRACTICE OF LAW BY OTHER THAN ADVOCATES. THEREFORE, I AM OF THE STRONG VIEW THAT TAX PRACTITIONERS BILL WHICH IS PREVAILING IN OTHER COUNTRY’S THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, WILL COME IN INDIA ALSO.
DEAR ALL FRIENDS,
MINISTRY OF FINANCE WILL NOW REALISE THAT ICAI (FINANCIALS) READY TO DO ANY THING FOR MONEY & POWER FROM THE EVENT OF “PUSHING THE DTC-2013” IN LOK SABHA FOR ITS PASSAGE.
BSKRAO SIR,
I TOO AGREE THAT AFFAIRS OF ICAI (FINANCIALS) IS AGAINST INDIAN CONSTITUTION, THEY ARE READ TO DO ANY THING FOR MONEY & POWER. EVEN TAKE TUMB IMPRESSION FROM DEAD BODY FOR MONEY & POWER
There is no need sections as like 288(2) income tax & other acts. If there is any need of other experts then they can be called u/s 131 of income tax act.
In other laws CA’s have zero knowledge. Due to such reasons they often create trouble for assesse when they representing the case.
Mr Atul ji,
Income tax is a law. It is not a accountancy book as prescribed area u/s 32 of chartered accountants act 1949 for CA’s. Can you tell me in which way taxation filed is core filed of CA’s. ICAI have made tress pass in the Advocate profession.
Practice of every law in india is interlinked with other laws including income tax. Mere reading of income tax law not makes perfect to you in filed of income tax. For interpreting lineal ascendant & decedent you need do detailed study of HINDU LAW & MOHAMMDEN LAW ( any matter related to gift & taxation on HUF)
OTHER ACTS which related to taxation practice.
1) HINDU LAW- FOR GIFT & TAXATION
2) MUSLIM LAW- FOR GIFT & HUF TAXATION
3) LOCAL LAND LAW- FOR CASES RELATED AGRICULTRE
4) STAMP ACT – HELPFUL DECIDE CASES RELATED PROPERTY IN IT ACT 1961.
5) COURT FEE ACT – MAKES DIFFERENCE BETWEEN POA in favour of CA’s & other non
Advocates
6) Evidence act – plays important role in income tax.
7) IPC – IPC knowledge required.
8) CPC
9) CRPC
10) CONTRACT ACT
Except these there are several laws which are interlinked to defend case under income tax act. “PRACTICE OF LAW” is core area of Advocates & others can’t be tax expert.
IT WILL BE GOOD IF CA’s ARE CONFINED TO THEIR OWN AREA WRITING OF ACCOUNTANCY BOOKS OF ASSESSEE as prescribed u/s 32 of Chartered accountant act 1949. Filling of form 3CD related to interpretation of laws & it should be core area for Advocates.
The expansion of definition of Accountant under DTC is welcome change. Much too long, it has been the monopoly of one profession and this monopoly resulted in malpractices leading to huge revenue leakages for the government. Therefore, it is welcome that this monopoly is broken and healthy competition is ushered in. As for competence of other professionals, I understand the other premier institutes have more or less similar expertise. CA’s need not fear encroachment into their domain. It is only the tax practice which is opened up and not the financial audit.Let the country gain by better, effective tax compliance. Let the fittest survive !!!!!
” DTC will never come. With BJP in power it’s totally gone. ”
a reply that I received from a senior govt official of revenue dept. on being asked about DTC.
Charted Accountants are the most Corrupt Auditors they themself involve in Scams by Auditing and Certifying false Accounts it is evident from cases such as SATYAM SCAM , GLOBAL TRUST BANK , REEBOK SCAM and many others. If CMA are included in Accountant definition under DTC small business man, Partnership Firm, Company get maximum benefit at competitive prices.
Atul Sir,
I agree with you. Now, Modi Govt. has come, it will not allow to happen again. I am confident, that Modi Govt. will make every part of rupee collected as tax spent with accountability. Let us support Modi in a big way.
DEAR ALL FRIENDS,
As told by Senior CA: In 1980’s Ltd companies were continuously audited by same old CAs without rotation. New CAs placed this plea before ICAI (Financials), Section 44AB Tax Audit inserted in Income-Tax Act as bread loaf to new CAs. This is the background story of Tax Audit. Hence, it is still retained in the statute book of Income-Tax Act since three decades, without evaluating its utility.
@ all other who think CS are better than CA
there is download link from ICSI website for to download the syllabus.
ICSI being an institute itself doesn’t know the SPELLING OF ” SYLLABUS ”
see it in the below link…
icsi.edu/WebModules/Student/SYLLEBUS2013.pdf
now judge…who is better….? CA or cs…
@K. Mukambika
You talk about begging.
ICSI was the ardent while seeking opportunity when the Companies Act 2013 was framed.
ICAI has never approached to the MCA people begging opportunity for themselves. It was ICSI who went their to SEEK opportunity from the MCA.
So who is the beggar here…? ICAI or ICSI ?….yes now you are right dear..its ICSI.
You cs don’t even know how to talk and think that you will be getting works by passing MCQ exams…means are you an idiot. Ok I m accepting that the entire world was supporting ICAI, but why not foreign companies were asking for CS….there have been major placements of CA across the world….ICAI currently has MRA with 69 countries. How MRA did ICSI have…? None… now ask yourself…whose better…CS or CA…it will always be CA…
Tax Audit U/s 44AB is the brain child of Wanchoo Committee, out of which two members Sri.P.C.Padhi & Sri.D.K.Rangnekar gave dissenting note for such audit to be conducted by only CAs. Sri.P.C.Padhi is the former chairman of Central Board of Revenue & Deputy Controller & Auditor General of India and Sri.D.K.Rangnekar is a economist & former editor of Economic Times. The word “Chartered” of ICAI (Financials) denotes some thing of a dominion state of affair as against Sovereign Independent Republic of India. Therefore, our Central Govt. think about retaining ICAI (Financials).
BML SIR,
MEMBERS OF ICAI (FINANCIALS) ARE SATISFYING THEIR PERSONAL AGENDA THROUGH THEIR PARENT BODY. GOVT. SHOULD LIFT THIS VEIL OR THINK ABOUT RETAINING ICAI(FINANCIALS). BECAUSE, EVERY TIME THEY MOVE WITH BEGGING BOWL APPROACHING GOVT. AGENCIES WITH THE MANTRA OF PROFESSIONAL OPPORTUNITIES. WHAT WE SHOULD CALL THIS ACT OF ICAI (FINANCIALS)
Mr Atul
Thanks for your great example to compare the two professional bodies…great culture ….Are u a CA ?
I guess u guys are really worried and frightened about competition…Like Indian cricket team at west indies during Mid 70s & 80s
Thousands of you are roaming with seal for chappa signature and beg to the IT inspectors and Clarks for setting your clients book who are merely Graduates, …everyone aware of that….Do you think it is savings of Tax or relief to your client….Do you think intelligent and knowledge needs settings like this….
Many of you clear CA exam with leaked question paper
Forget about Satyam Sardha….there are thousand of bogus finance companies, chit funds …who conducts audit of those ?..Dentist ? At least dentist have their responsibility to let you know that which are your bad teeth and need treatment….do you think CA s have ?
Dentists also need to take some oath but do CA s ?
Financial malpractices makes those guys great…Are they CA s?
How many of you have guts to report that the Books are cooked ?
They are numbered Mr Atul…..
Mr Atul Tax as a subject has not been patented by your esteemed institute …Is it ?
Don’t you feel a subject like Tax can not be learnt just by clearing 2 or 3 papers.
Yesterday my colleague, who happens to be a Cost Accountant had asked me – do you have that notification etc, which allows CMA/CS to do tax audits, and then I started search, and got this content, which I had sent to him for reading.
https://taxguru.in/income-tax/dtc-tax-audit-company-secretaries-cost-accountants.html#comment-913772
And today when i started the system, and the first thing of the day, I get to read the various views, written don the content I had picked up from the above link, and then got an understanding of the state-of-affairs of the above mentioned professions. None of them even remotely has this in their back of minds, (instead everybody, EACH ONE OF THEM was immersed in praising the profession to which he or she pertains) that – all these I call are ‘ticketing issues’ and each one of em are missing the main thing – the journey!!
Instead of thinking who is great, it is better to think how to become Great. A matter of fact CA “FEEL” they are some sorts of ‘upper’ class or creed and forget the basic of being great, being great is not how much you have it is how much you need. And very unfortunately, ICAI have been in focus of lobbying for better prospects, for more monopoly(monopoly it self is just one -but still they need more of this too!!) for more of this and more of that, more of everything. For successful parenting it is sine-qua-non to teach the child how to co-exist HARMONIOUSLY WITH OTHERS AND TO EXIST GENTLY!! Where as the ICAI has been a parent which want to do everything for the kid, making the kid capable but an arrogant being in the society. People should have the power they deserve but not the associated problems. Sad…very sad! – this viewpoint is very clear with each of the CA that – CA exam is very tough, we ONLY clear no one else, instead, it is time to re-think on these issues. And ICAI shall give easy access to CS/CMA/Advocates – who are qualified + working and intent to do CA. The 3 or 5 years mandatory training acts as a deterrent.
India – this nation is the actual maker, and benefactor of all the professions. AND FOR ADMINISTRATIVE CONVENIENCE ALONE WE HAVE AUTONOMOUS BODIES, BUT CERTAINLY NOT TO FIGHT OUT THE BATTLE OF WHO IS THE BEST. This is like all the Doctors go an a fight, to decide who is best, it is a cardiologist or a skin specialist or an EnT specialist Doc or an Oncologist – and it is clear that EACH ONE OF THEM ARE IMPORTANT, the reason they specialise is to understand the issue in detail to serve the patient better. Similarly, the CAs CSs CMAs Advocates should remember that they are here to serve the legal and compliance system be it Tax, FEMA, Companies Act or the whole other gamut of business laws including the other domain knowledge needed for each one of them esp to cost auditors.
And its great that at this evolutionary juncture, we are asking these questions.So lets just sort this issue out – all this can change for the better of each one involved.
It should be CA&CS&CMA&ADVOCTES and NOT CA VS CA VS CMA VS ADVOCATES!! Out of dust and mud comes out gold, good that these questions are put- lets get the gold out of this!!
But, now the question is how to sort this out!? Whom to go to??
Respected All,
Everyone over here from the field of CAs, Cs and ICWA are there to save their respective work or say revenue of them or increase the same. Everyone talking in their own individual capacity.
Instead of commenting on each others comment and shows that who are superior and govt. will raise the bar in whose hand are the future things…So stop all nonsense things things which you are doing and lets decide the govt. what to do…
Atul Sab,
Why Govt. should worry about professional bodies & core competence of their members. Govt. wants revenue ? Hence, whatever you suggest to widen tax bases to increase revenue may be considered by the Govt. Further, tax audit is not a rocket science to confine the authority on only CAs. I think, Govt. is now repenting its act of allowing only CAs to conduct tax audit in 1984.
Atul Sab,
Particulars of Income-tax admitted in tax audit cases for Asst. Year 2013-14 that relates return filed in ITR-4, 5 & 6 provided by DIT(S) as at 31.12.2013 are as under :-
Total Tax Admitted in ITR-4 Rs. 20,175/- Crores
Total Tax Admitted in ITR-5 Rs. 18,358/- Crores
Total Tax Admitted in ITR-6 Rs. 2,33,604/- Crores
Margin derived by farmers is not taxed in Income-Tax Act, but margin derived by next sellers of such agricultural output is taxed in their hands in Income-Tax Act. Presuming the output of corporate assessees reach the ultimate consumer in three stages & considering tax admission of Rs 2,33,604/- Crores in corporate case and 50% of such corporate assessees do business with non-corporates covered by tax audit, who are in between the corporates & retailers. I am of the strong view that combined Income-Tax admission as per return filed in ITR-4 & 5 covered by tax audit U/s 44AB for the Asst. Year 2013-14 should have crossed at least Rs. 15,00,000/-Crores. (Basis being 80:20 ratio of Ag. & Ind. Output).
Atul Sab,
If your statement is correct, why Legal Practitioners, Cost & Management Accountants, Company Secretaries & Income-Tax Practitioners are also authorised to prepare return under Rule 12A of Income-Tax Rules, 1962. I say that because of inserting tax audit clause U/s 44AB on the behest of ICAI (Financials)in 1984, original intention of legislature & drafters of Income-Tax Act, 1961 by learned officials in finance ministry has been struck down. This was also cautioned by senior member in CBDT Sri.P.C.Padhi at that time.
Wholly crap….how could u let CS and CWAs for conducting tax audit.
Taxation in India is the core field of CAs and will always be such.
Allowing CS or CWAs to conduct Tax Audit will be like allowing an DENTIST to perform RETINAL SURGERY.
I think CAs are the best in helping their clients to save tax, and thus GOI wants to empower CS and CWA in this field so that its revenue can be increased.